tv Piers Morgan Tonight CNN July 2, 2011 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
the world, charlize theron. [ speaking foreign language ] >> wow, i didn't even know you fancied me. that's amazing. >> glamour girl. one of "esquire's" sexiest women alive. she's smart, she's sassy, and she can apparently tell a dirty joke and drink you under the table. sounds like a perfect woman. >> i was raised by a broad. and some of that rubbed off. >> a girl who went from a south african farm to hollywood stardom and won an oscar for her brutally honest role as a serial killer.
tonight you'll see her as you've probably never seen her before. >> that's a very good taco. >> do you know how many times i've dreamt of having a taco with you over a few beers? charlize theron on her life, her loves, the tragedy that brought her to hollywood in the first place, and the causes closest to her heart. this is "piers morgan tonight." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com right, now let's start with the obvious question. how do you actually pronounce your name? >> charlize theron. >> that's the american way. >> yes. yes. it's how -- it's what i thought would be easier for people. >> what is the correct south african, dare i say it, afrikan's way of pronouncing this? >> charlize theron. >> i much prefer that.
it's so much sexier. say that again. >> charlize theron. >> charlize theron. >> charlize theron. you obviously were raised south african and you presumably came to l.a. with a broad south african accent, and you quite consciously went and taught yourself how to speak in an american accent, right? >> yeah. i mean, look, it was kind of -- i was kind of pushed into a corner. i started going out on auditions, and the feedback was that she's really great, but can she do it in american accent? my english was very poor, and i still you'll hear -- i'll make a lot of grammar mistakes. >> do you speak african fluently? >> every day. i speak everyday to my mother. >> let's hear it, come on speak african to me. [ speaking foreign language ] >> wow, i didn't know you fancied me. that's amazing. that's incredible. so you speak it completely fluently? >> oh, i think more fluently than i speak english. yeah, definitely. >> well, miss theron.
woody harrelson got me very excited about interviewing you. >> woody? >> yeah. because he said charlize is not like a delicate girl. she's a classic broad in terms of being a beautiful woman, incredibly talented, and also able to tell more vulgar jokes than you, and drink you under the table. >> none of this -- >> guilty as charged? >> none of this -- there's no truth to it whatsoever. >> there clearly is. i can't imagine you being vulgar. you seem such a nice girl. >> i'm not vulgar, i wouldn't say i'm vulgar. but i think i was raised by a broad and some of that rubbed off. and i'm really -- i'm very -- i'm grateful for that. will smith one day said, what i like about you, chuck, is that you're like from the white house to the ghetto. and i thought that was one of the best compliments that was ever given to me. >> that's a great phrase. he calls you chuck? >> yeah. >> it's getting ever more complicated. you're going to have to restate
your name now. >> i know, seriously. >> you can't have americans call you chuck. >> no, no. >> they will call you chuck if given half the chance. >> look, i loved working with woody. we actually did a film together that was a true story of this very important sexual class action -- class action sexual harassment case that took place in minnesota, and so it was really heavy material. >> all your stuff is heavy. this is why i like you. you could just play conventional pretty blonde stuff until you're 108. but actually you choose -- >> no, actually you can't do that until 108. that's why i chose this career, because i want to actually work until i'm 108, and i don't think you can have longevity if you just fall back on one aspect of what you are. >> you always choose these challenging roles. they're always quite edgy, the ones that i've seen. they're always a little bit dangerous. you take risks. i like that about you as an actress.
there's never a safe route, is there? >> i don't think human beings are -- i think we're pretty complicated. and i do think there's a lack of -- a lack of interest and willingness to explore the kind of not so attractive side of what it is to be a woman, and the fact that we don't want to necessarily as a society celebrate the fact that we are complex and that we are -- you know, we're flawed. not all of us are perfect mothers. not all of us are perfect wives. you know, we're complex. i felt that when "monster" came to me. the thing that was really clear to me is that it read like something that de niro would get or some great guy would get to play this conflicted character. so very few times in my career have i been given that opportunity to tackle that type of character who really very
evident in who we are. >> what flaws do you have? if you don't mind me saying too obvious. >> oh, i don't have flaws, i'm speaking of other women. no, i'm perfect. >> come on, let's get you on the therapist couch. >> oh, dear god, what is this, an hour show? >> you have plenty of time, seriously. >> i think we need another few hours. look, i am -- i'm just as flawed as the woman next to me. i really am. i think that the great thing about aging has been the acknowledgement of my flaws. and i think it's kind of -- it's given me a sense of peace. and so, so far i'm really loving the aging process because that kind of wisdom of really kind of understanding why can you sometimes do the crap that you do or behave -- >> do you really love the aging process? >> so far, i said. i said so far. >> is that because it's obviously treating you quite well? >> look, i'm only 35. my god! we're talking about this like i'm in my -- >> i didn't mention the aging process. >> no, i'm only 35. and so i consider that pretty
young. >> you haven't actually spelled out any flaws yet. >> okay. well, if you have to, if you really want to cover this. >> well, you raised it. >> i suffer from a bit of ocd. >> i know about this. closets have to be perfect. >> yeah. i'm a bit compulsive. yeah. >> and you stay awake at night worrying that someone's closet is near you -- >> i have a thing about things that are hidden. like i will -- yeah, i have a hard time, especially when i'm renting a house if i'm working on a film and i don't know what's in all the -- i have to know what's in all the closets. this is so pathetic. i cannot believe we're talking about this. >> this is great. this is really weird. this is great. so you get to these random houses, and what do you do? >> the first thing i do is i inspect every closet and drawer. >> fantastic. >> and then i have like a -- it's just my organization. i don't say -- this is just how my head works, things that -- i have to put things where i think
they belong in a room or how you kind of have access to them. it's really pathetic. this is so bad. seriously, would you stop talking about it? >> really beginning to freak me out. >> i am single. i need to find a man. >> this is not going to help. >> this is not going to help. >> there are guys all over america saying, who is this weirdo? >> exactly. >> let's move on. let's go back to "the devil's advocate" which is the movie that kind of springboarded you into the "a" list. let's have a little clip and watch this. >> you know, you buy a couple of new suits and you're fine. >> it's a little more than that. >> i have this whole place to fill, and i know we've got all this money and it's supposed to be fun, but it's not. it's like a test, the whole thing is like one big test. >> it's fascinating watching you because i know you don't like watching yourself, do you? >> i've gotten a lot better. since i've been producing, i've gotten a lot better with it. when i started, i had a really
-- i hate my voice. i hate the way i sound. and i think that was always hard. >> that's not your real voice, is it, that's the problem. >> yeah, maybe, because it sounds foreign. but since i've become a producer and i've had to kind of, you know, sit in editing rooms and sit for hours and watch footage be cut together, i think -- i think i've gotten better to kind of take myself out of it and really look at it as making a film. and you kind of take all that weight off just yourself, which has been really great for me as an actor. >> you bring incredible intensity to this stuff. scare the life out of me. i'm just watching it from a monitor. you're like a raging volcano in some of these parts. >> a raging volcano who likes to clean. >> yes. the most weird type of raging volcano. >> look, that film, taylor hackford, the director of that film, cast me after several screen tests and auditions. and the studio didn't want me.
the studio thought that i was too pretty. and taylor really fought for me. he really fought for me. and he's very much an actor's director. and i really kind of -- i have to thank him, because every moment on that set, i never felt like i was treated like, you know, a new actor or didn't know anything. he really kind of gave me a stage where i could be a raging maniac. >> do you know how much money you've taken at the box office in movies you've been in? >> god, no. >> $800 million from 26 movies. >> wow. >> that's not bad, is it? >> that sounds good. >> nearly a billion dollars. you're the billion dollar woman. >> no, i don't -- i don't pay that much attention to that. i don't. >> you don't care how much they make, these films? >> i care. i want people to go and see my movies. i'm definitely not one of those actors who -- >> if i could offer you a choice now, you could be a lead actress in a movie that's going to make
$800 million in the next two months but it will be critically hammered, everyone will hate you in it -- >> that wouldn't be the reason that i would choose it. >> no, no, no. you can have one of two scenarios. or i could put you in a movie that is incredibly critically acclaimed in which you win awards for your acting, but it completely bombs at the box office. which one would you prefer at this stage of your career? >> i guess i would take the one that makes the billion dollars, but the critics don't care for it because then i can go make seven of the ones that i love. >> see, that's a fascinating answer. that's not what i thought you'd say, but that's an honest answer. >> that's the business side of me. i understand how this industry works. and the -- what i will say in all honesty is even though i understand how this machine is driven and how it works, i -- even in making the choices that i have on the bigger studio films, i feel really, really
lucky and i'm grateful that i have never really truly felt like i've done myself any -- i haven't compromised to the place where i feel uncomfortable. i've chosen those big movies with still a belief that there's something creative there that i like in the story telling or whatever it was. so it's not a complete sellout. >> no, i accept that. we'll take a short break. when we come back, i want to talk to you about south africa where you grew up and about your mother who's been this heroic, constant figure in your life. >> the broad. >> the broad. the other broad. my doctor told me calcium is best absorbed in small continuous amounts. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal. you want that? you want a warm, super-delicious strawberry toaster strudel
yeah but now i have nothing to eat sure you do. hey! you can have the pop tart! pillsbury toaster strudel. the one kids want to eat pillsbthis past year alone there was a 93% increase in cyber attacks. in financial transactions... on devices... in social interactions... and applications in the cloud. some companies are worried. some, not so much. thanks to a network that secures it all and knows what to keep in, and what to keep out. outsmart the threats. see how at cisco.com cisco. britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart." i smiled and squeezed her hand.
let me just give it to you straight. the truth is, i'm a hooker. i'm trying to clean my life up here, you know, go straight and christian and all. so, if there's anything that you can help me with -- >> i see you've been convicted of a felony. >> yeah, but see that was because -- >> that doesn't even matter because the best you'll get is factory work. hey, todd, do we even have factory work? >> i'm sorry. look, i'm just trying to talk to you woman to woman truthfully. you know? hey, hey, hey! >> that was charlize theron as eileen warner in "monster." that wasn't just heralded as a great movie. i read serious critics in america saying it was one of the greatest performances in the history of acting. an amazing thing to say about a young actress in your position
then, but it was an astounding film. and so visceral and raw, that character, and when you look back on it now, and obviously brilliant for you in your career, but to actually play that role, what was the experience like? >> that was the greatest gift i think i've ever been given in my career. >> really? >> yeah, look, it's absolutely amazing to win an academy award. i'm not going to sit here and be jaded about it. >> did you watch the oscars as a young girl? >> i did, yeah. >> you remember watching these people winning and thinking it was all impossibly glamorous and exciting? >> yeah, but the funny thing was i would watch the oscars and i would go to movies, i loved movies, but i didn't know the celebrity aspect of it or i didn't -- i didn't know their names. like i would just be like, oh, that's that guy in that movie with the dog. that was my connection to it. and i also had this very kind of -- my perspective was just i thought that tom hanks was like my neighbor in south africa.
he just happened to be an actor. like i really didn't understand, you know, the reality of what that world was or anything. >> what was the reality of life in south africa for you? pretty tough from everything i've read and heard from you. >> tough, but look, i had an incredible childhood in south africa. i grew up in a country with a lot of turmoil. and, look, i went through -- i lived in a country that went through probably one of the biggest historical changes in this, in my lifetime. now, with everything that's happening in north africa and in the middle east, like, it's probably the equivalent to that, but when apartheid was in 1991, and in '94 with the first free election and the first democratic election, that was like, that was a really huge thing. and i think it was when i was
around 19, 20 that i truly understood. before that i didn't know anything different. but traveling and really understanding where i came from, i understood how what we had gone through as a country and as a nation. but living when i was raised in south africa, i was raised somewhat isolated in a rural farm community. my parents had a road construction company. they built a lot of the roads in south africa. and the farm was really just used for us to survive on, like foodwise. we grew and ate everything off the land, but it was really to hold the machinery for the road construction company and also everybody that worked for the company lived on the farm with us. i was an only child, i was raised with zulus and others and their children. >> an amazing experience. >> it really was. and i was only aware of what was going on in south africa through the fact that my parents were very much outspoken about politics. and that was kind of an every night event. having dinner and having my mom
and my dad talk about the situation in south africa and politics, and also really witnessing racism through some of my friends and that knowledge of apartheid was very evident. so i think i was blessed to have the childhood that i -- you know, you have to kind of look at the glass half empty or half full. i grew up in a beautiful country with a lot of problems. i was raised by two great parents, a great mother who made me very much aware of having a political awareness of where you come from and also of the world. that i feel like a lot of my friends in america don't necessarily have because they were raised in a country that's been very fortunate. >> when i went to south africa last summer and went around the soweta township which is an incredible thing to do, millions
of people living in poverty, and you would imagine -- because they're living in such poverty, their spirit would be really low and depressed. it couldn't have been more different. the joy that i saw amongst these people who had nothing. and it was really, i think, from hope. they have been given hope by nelson mandela. and they had also been taught not to complain by nelson man della. if ever a man should have complained about what had happened to him shall it was nelson mandela. yet he came out of prison and said we're not going to exact revenge, we're not going to have a bloody war. we're going to forgive and move on and we're going to be a country that unites. and that's exactly what's happened. >> and a lot of politicians can say that, but it will have no effect. and he actually has -- his cause and effect was brilliant. >> have you met him? >> yes, yes. >> when did you meet him? >> the first time i met him, i had just won the academy award. that was the first time i met him. >> what does he say to you? >> the nicest things that any icon or hero could possibly say to you. things that i'm so not deserving of.
but, yeah, he was -- >> like what? >> just, you know, giving me credit for being a south african and putting south africa on the map, which i didn't, but i'll take that any day from nelson mandela. >> but it was a big deal for a south african to win an oscar. not any south africans have won oscars over the years. >> none in that category. i don't think. >> any other? >> yes. >> women? >> yeah. >> who else? >> i don't know about woman. >> quite something. >> it's pretty special. pretty special. yeah. for this farm girl, it's pretty special. >> pretty extraordinary. and i want to come after the next break to what i was going to get to but we got sidetracked, your mother, who is also, i think, probably you would say pretty special. >> mm-hmm. yeah. >> one of the reasons you're here. [ marge ] psst. constipated? phillips' caplets use magnesium, an ingredient that works more naturally with your colon than stimulant laxatives, for effective relief of constipation without cramps. thanks. [ professor ] good morning students. today, we're gonna...
♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistle ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. can become romantic just like that. a spark might come from -- a touch, a glance -- it can come along anywhere, anytime. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment's right even if it's not every day. tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications
and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. [ man ] do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than 4 hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, stop taking cialis and call your doctor right away. [ male announcer ] ask your doctor if cialis for daily use is right for you. for a 30-tablet free trial offer, go to cialis.com. you're gonna have the hottest car on the block. [ airplane engine rumbles ] show me the carfax. yeah, show me the carfax. we...we ran out. what? just show me the carfax. before you buy a used car, get a carfax vehicle history report. see accidents and service reported to carfax and a price based on the car's history. free, at thousands of reputable dealers. just say, show me the carfax.
back home, and this awful scene erupts where your father comes back with his younger brother, they're both drunk, they're aggressive. your father has a gun as most people in south africa did. and he actually starts shooting into a room where you are and your mother are. and your mother gets a gun and shoots him dead. i mean, i can't imagine a more dramatic, appalling thing to happen to parents that i would love in the way that you did. i don't want to go over the details, but in terms of the impact it had on your life, how would you describe what happened afterwards? how much of it is down to what happened, if anything? >> look, i don't know. it's a great -- it was the great tragedy of my life. but i think that what follows is, i think, what normally follows when you go through something like a great loss or a shock.
i'm not the first person and i won't be the last person on this earth to experience something like that. unfortunately a lot of people experience that kind of violence. is that you have to kind of find where you want yourself to be and how you want people to see you in this world. and i was blessed to have a parent that kind of guided me towards very healthy time period of mourning, of going through the confusion, going through the shock, going through the anger, going through all of the emotional things that you do when something like this happens to you. but really kind of guided me towards not being a victim and not going through my life feeling victimized. you know, i'm incredibly saddened by that night and saddened by the event. i'm sad for my mother. >> do you get nightmares from it? do you still have nightmares,
flashbacks? does it haunt you? >> no, it doesn't haunt me. no, it doesn't haunt me at all. i'm completely at peace. >> your mother did an extraordinary thing. she sent you off with her blessing. she said get away from here. whatever happens to me, i don't want you part of this. i want you to get away and have a career, and you did. >> my mother is amazing. and i know all daughters or children will say this, that sounds very biased, but my mother is a very -- she's very unique. >> she saved your life when you were 2 years old. >> mm-hmm. >> you fell into a swimming pool, i think, and she dived in fully clothed. >> yeah. >> and pulled you out. and she saved your life again when you were 15. >> she saved my life many other times too. >> tell me about her. >> she -- you know what's incredible, she hates this. you know, my mom is a very, very private person, so she hates when i talk about her. but i will do this just to -- because, you know, we always just tend to talk about that night. and i think it is good for people to understand that my
mother has this incredible ability to -- she has a resilience about her that i've never come across in any other human being. she has this incredible ability to truly understand and appreciate the value of life. and i'm not just saying it because of that experience, she had it before when i was growing up. not just because she went through an event where, you know, you kind of have to look at every single day, that it could be your last because these things do happen, but i'm not saying it in that sense. i'm saying from the time that i was a little girl, my mother had this appreciation, she celebrates life. and the interesting thing is, that she -- i don't understand where she got the tools to be the mother that she is, because she did not have a mother who was good to her.
and so i'm -- i am -- i want to just -- i always feel like i want to praise her and kind of like sing her praises in some way, because i feel that it's wrong that that's the only kind of event that people always talk about. >> i mean, the most remarkable thing that you can probably show people is your mother's strength in that time of terrible crisis for both of you and for the family. look where you are now. >> i think in my oscar speech i tried to say this, and i think i kind of lost it by then. but i tried to say that there were no words to describe how grateful -- how much i love her, but how grateful i am because of the things that she sacrificed for me in order to do all of this. she was completely alone. she was living on a farm by herself, which is one of the most dangerous things that you can do in south africa. and that went on for years, you know. but she encouraged me to go and chase a better life for myself. and i think, you know, another parent could have very easily
have said no. >> obviously, the strength of character you get from your mother, the independence and the talent no doubt. but there must have been things you got from your father. >> he was a fun guy. you know, he was a fun guy. you know, he liked to laugh. i remember him laughing a lot. god, yeah, i mean, look, i'm sure i'm -- i'm positive i'm from both of them, but i'm very -- i feel very similar to my mother. very, very similar to my mother. >> we're going to take another break. we're going to come back and talk about what you've given back to south africa now since you've been here, which has been an extraordinary thing that you've achieved, i think. i have astigmatism. so my old contact lenses would sometimes move out of place and blur my vision.
my eye doctor said there's great news for people with astigmatism. acuvue® oasys for astigmatism. he said it's the only lens of its kind designed to realign naturally with every blink and created with hydraclear® plus. i'm seeing more clearly, crisply, comfortably, all day long. now life doesn't have to be a blur. [ male announcer ] learn more at acuvue.com. acuvue® oasys for astigmatism. [ male announcer ] learn more at acuvue.com. discover customersl are getting five percent cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to switch, it pays to discover. 14 clubs. that's what they tell us a legal golf bag can hold. and while that leaves a little room for balls and tees, it doesn't leave room for much else. there's no room left for deadlines or conference calls. not a single pocket to hold the stress of the day, or the to-do list of tomorrow.
>> well, we launched this program in 2007, but i started to work with the anti-rape and -- the rape crisis center in south africa 12 years ago. when people -- well, at that time we were the rape capital of the world. rape is still a big issue in south africa. and when you talk about rape crisis in south africa, you start understanding that there is a bigger problem because you are dealing with a country that is highly infected with hiv and aids. the epidemic in south africa is the worst than any other country in the world. the number in premature deaths caused by hiv/aids has increased in the last decade from 39% to 75%. we are only one percent of the population, but we are 17% of the people living with aids and hif hiv in the world. when you start to hear things like that -- i'm south africa,
so it made sense for me, but i think that if i weren't a south african and i heard those numbers, i think that i would -- >> what is the main reason that you believe it is so bad in south africa, and what can be done to tackle it properly, do you think? >> i think it is a lack of education. i really do. i really believe that. and this program has made me aware of that. i think that we take for granted people knowing how to prevent hiv and aids. there is a lot of time and resources and money being poured into immediate care for people who are already positive, and i think that is very important. but there's -- we have a real problem with governments and donators not understanding the importance of prevention care. i think that to end this vicious cycle, we have to seriously start looking at prevention care, and it is all about education. i mean, when we launched this program in 2007, we started when we started the sex educational
part of it, you know, culturally it is not accepted to talk about these things, it is taboo. so, to start some conversation with teenagers about sex was impossible. we would get these real amazing beautiful african mamas who represented a mother figure to them and made it okay to talk about sex and condoms and prevention, and also, explore, you know, to kind of broaden the horizons of just making it about hiv and aids and finding the things that are integrated to that which is how you behave with a woman, and how you value a woman in your community, and what is sex and love and hygiene and all of these things. we started realizing that once they realized it was okay, they didn't know anything. they didn't have the tools or the knowledge. >> these t-shirts i have here, lively little numbers. tell me about these. >> well, they are amazing. this great group of people at give and take partnered up with
us, and incredible people and i'm so grateful to them, and 50% of the proceeds of the t-shirts go to african outreach. >> how do you get them? >> you can go to our website, charlizeafricaoutreach.org. and you can buy them there. >> and directly help? >> yes, and directly -- look, here is the thing. when i started this, you kind of go in very naively thinking that you can do a lot with little, but you need good access to donors and money, and i feel like people especially in this country want to help and do with the help so much. it is a question of kind of letting them know how to reach out. >> and what is the single biggest problem of the young in south africa just don't really want to use condoms or know much about them, is that the problem? >> it is knowledge. i think they want to use them, and we have a survey that we did on our program and 70% of all of our children who have access to condoms use them.
again, i feel that -- i feel that we forget the importance of knowledge, of just purely, when we started the program i had a 16-year-old boy tell me that he was not going to be hiv positive. i said, good. why? and he said, because i have a condom and i wash it and i use it. so it is little things like that that you wonder how many lives you can save if you tell, how many children you tell teenagers who are sexually active that you cannot reuse a condom and something as small as that. we have great data on what anti-retroviral drugs have done in africa, but we don't have great data on what prevention care has done and can do. you know, it is something that is going to take maybe a whole generation to figure out. i think that is why we have a problem with donors and governments supporting these kinds of program, because prevention care just kind of doesn't feel as necessary or as important as somebody who already is infected.
and in saying all of this, i'm not taking away the importance of that, but i do feel that we can't just focus on one and negligent the other. and it is proven when you look at the statistics. >> let's take another break, and when we come back, i want to talk to you about politics which you said was often discussed at the dinner table when you were young, and we want to bring in some tacos in to spice things up a little bit. >> really? >> i think you know why, don't you? losing your chex mix too easily? time to deploy the chex mix boring potato chip decoy bag. now no one will want to steal the deliciousness. with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix is a bag of interesting. oh, we call it the bundler. let's say you need home and auto insurance. you give us your information once, online... [ whirring and beeping ] [ ding! ] and we give you a discount on both.
sort of like two in one. how did you guys think of that? it just came to us. what? bundling and saving made easy. now, that's progressive. call or click today. toi switched to a complete0, multivitamin with more. only one a day women's 50+ advantage has ginkgo for memory and concentration, plus support for bone and breast health. a great addition to my routine. [ female announcer ] one a day women's.
try capzasin-hp. it penetrates deep to block pain signals for hours of relief. capzasin-hp. take the pain out of arthritis. i'm back with charlize theron, and we have been joined by some tacos and beer. and the reason for that is that in "esquire" magazine in 2007 you said the following. "i can't go anywhere, not if you want to talk. this is l.a. i mean, if you can find me a taco place, a place where we can go, sit around, drink beers, argue politics, and be left alone, then take me there, i'll go with you. i'm yours." well, charlize, here we are. here are the tacos, here are the beers, we're all alone. i have taken you to utopia. >> you never realize when you say these things how much trouble you get into because people remember them. >> tell me about your views on
various political issues. what incenses you? what issues in america wind you up? >> there are a few. >> come on. >> i i try not to get myself in it -- look, here is the thing. i voted for obama -- i have only voted twice in my life. i voted for obama and i voted for mandela, and i won't lie to you, because both times i felt like i was part of something pretty historical. >> do you still feel with obama that he is capable of being as great as everybody hoped? >> yes, i think he's incredibly capable of it. i just sometimes wish the democrats would actually kind of put action to what they tell people. >> you feel is a contentious one for you, but what do you feel about the gun policy in america given that you came from a country that had them everywhere. >> i just don't think that by any means anyone should have a semiautomatic or automatic weapon for anything.
i'll start with that. you know, i think that i obviously come from -- i've had an experience in my life where in the wrong circumstances, a gun can be used in a very tragic way. i also understand people's feelings about wanting to have their right to protect themselves. i always find it interesting that the right to bear arms actually has nothing to do with owning a gun. >> you said something very interesting about gay marriage i wanted to talk to you about. i never had a fancy of getting married. the more i lived in the u.s. and had friends that were gay and lesbian and watched them struggle in this society where you can only get married if you're the right kind of love, i think love is love and we should all have the same rights. >> it's a divine -- it's a divine right. and, you know, when government starts to tell us who can love and what is good love, whether it's government or a government built on a certain religion, i do have a problem with that. i do. you know, i think that if you
want to bring it back to the politics, have a discussion about politics, i do have a problem with the fact that our government has not stepped up enough to make this federal, to make this legal. >> you'd like to see every state in america -- >> yes, i think everybody has that right. >> oblige a gay marriage. >> i think everybody has that right, i really do. and for me, i think people kind of took that quote and really tried to make it about a statement for myself. i'll be the first to say here on your show, marriage before i felt this way about this issue was never something that was important. i don't know the exact reason for that. some would say it's because i came from a very troubled marriage. my parents did not have a good marriage. but i don't think it's that. i know a lot of friends who come from divorced parents or bad marriages who don't feel that way. i really want for myself a long-term relationship, and i have been in long-term
relationships, and so i want that. that's the kind of union that i want. the actual ceremony is not something that's important to me. >> do you think you'll ever -- >> but i see the importance for other people. i have a friend who's getting married in october, and i'm going for the first time really kind of through this experience being in her bridal party, and i see the joy on her face, and this is a heterosexual couple. and i have gay couples who have gotten married when it was legal in this state and i see the joy they get out of that. just because i don't want that for myself, i don't feel it is right to take that away from someone else. >> do you feel you will never get married? >> i don't. i don't. i mean, look, here is the thing when you are in partnership with someone, you have to respect how the other person feels, and i don't want to be one of those my way. but i have been very fortunate enough to be in relationships where i have explained that to my partner, and they have been very okay with that, and not that i have forced them into a corner. i treat my relationships like marriages.
i really do, and for me, i feel a lot of marriage, you know, taking away if you are living by the standard of which you believe marriage is, a lot of it is really great in the celebration of finding a dress and for the girl especially feeling like a princess. i really understand marriage, and i respect marriage, but i just feel that we should all have equal rights. love is such a divine thing. it is such a gift, and who are we to say? >> we are going the come back after a final break and obviously, we have provided beer and tacos and when beer have beer and tacos they talk about one thing, men. so we will. soft! hard! soft! hard! [ male announcer ] how do you decide between crunchy and soft tacos? why don't we have both? [ male announcer ] old el paso. hard and soft tacos.
>> my job is so hard. it is so hard! >> just working with hunky guys all day long. >> it is so exhausting looking into those gorgeous faces. >> how many times have you been properly in love? >> that is so -- a few. i'm going to leave it at a few. >> how many fingers? >> no, a few. a few. >> you had a long time relationship with an irishman and it ended last year. soon after you'd said quite publicly you were sort of hinting that you thought this might be the one who was going to be the lifetime relationship, but it didn't work out. why is that, do you think? >> i really love my job and my fans, but when it comes to my relationship, it is something i keepsake red and private to me.
>> before you split up, you were asked about chin, you made no secret you would like to to have children. as far as i know -- well, are you? are you in a relationship? i have heard some outrageous names. >> after i eat this taco and they wind it back and talk about my ocd, i apparently will never have a relationship in my life. >> i was once spoon fed guacamole. >> i don't want to be like all of the women who come on here. i would like you to see with your capable hands bring a taco to your mouth. come on. >> i have a pub in london. do you know what my reputation would be like if you had images of you spoon feeding our tacos. >> i think it would be rude if we didn't take a bite. come on, dig with me. >> i can't shut him up, not even with a taco, look at this. >> is it true -- >> mm. >> it's not bad. >> that's a very good taco. >> do you know how many times i
have dreamt of having a taco with you over a few beers. tell me about you and prince harry? >> oh, my god. we are married. i'm pregnant. and i'm -- [ laughter ] >> oh, my, talk about dropped anchor. i mean, any flirtation there? >> no, i met him. he is such a nice guy. i love the work he does in africa. and i got invited to a -- i had never been to a polo match. i was in london working on a film, and so i got this great invite. i wanted to go see a polo game, and he does great work in africa, and we are going to try to do something together. that is what that was, and it is unbelievable how that introduction turned into some crazy, crazy wildfire. like it was, yeah. >> so early days? >> i feel bad for him. >> do you? >> yeah, i mean, it was such an innocent introduction and to have people just kind of -- that
must be horrible. >> i don't think he is moaning, trust me. harry linked to charlize theron is mot the wornot the worst day life. >> a really charming guy. really lovely, smart, funny. nice, beautiful, effortless conversation. >> you have an outrageous name. i have been put to you, keanu reeves. >> this is the problem when you're single and your friends come out to try to help you, and you know, take you out for a nice meal. >> not a sliver of truth in. >> i have known him for over 15 years. we have become -- we became really good friends, we did two movies together. he lives 20 minutes away from me. i consider him one of my friends. he's just a very, very dear friend. >> it could be like "when harry met sally" 15 years on. >> no, he is a very, very dear friend. >> so you are footloose and fancy free? >> aren't you rr